| Date | Original Topic |
| 26th March 2005 | last stand
By kieran
at the end of the movie zulu you see the regement in that 3 lines thing were ones knelling ones standing and the other on firing steps did this last bit ever realy happen |
| Date | Replies |
| 26th March 2005 | Chris John
To my knowledge, this never happened sorry. As far as my knowledge goes, the men at Rorke's Drift just stayed at the barricades, and the redoubt was where most of the wounded were put after the storehouse verandah was filled with the ones from the hospital evacuation.
CJ 289 |
| 27th March 2005 | Trevor
Cheers Chris.
Another lasting memory crushed! |
| 27th March 2005 | kieran
the last of my memory of the film i loved crushed and stomped on the ground dam it lol |
| 27th March 2005 | Andrew Holliday
Although some men were in the redoubt, the defenders did not retreat and give the Zulus volley after volley they stayed at the barricade. |
| 27th March 2005 | kieran
thx for that |
| 27th March 2005 | Trevor
No dinner for the dog tonight.
And i'm not cleaning the fish out.
Unless the wife insists!!!!!!!! |
| 28th March 2005 | Coll
Kieran
Some images are good to keep a hold of, even if they differ from the real thing.
I personally like the image in Zulu Dawn of Col. Durnford making his last stand from the top of a wagon, even though it never happened exactly that way.
As long as you can detach film images from the true incidents, they remain enjoyable.
Coll |
| 28th March 2005 | kieran
right o thx alot |
| 29th March 2005 | Tom
I think Stanley Baker got the idea of the final stand at the redoubt from an illustration in the London Illustrated News.
Perhaps Sheldon could help out here?
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| 29th March 2005 | Chris
Ive always thaught the image of Burt Lancaster on top of that wagon as very heroic and brave .. ranking alongside Custer, Chamberlin, The Alamo etc |
| 30th March 2005 | Sheldon Hall
Bob Porter claims that the idea for the 'tableau' at the end of the volley-firing scene was inspired by a picture from a contemporary (1879) edition of The Illustrated London News. I've not been able to locate such an illustration from that magazine (not one reproduced in Ron Lock and Peter Quantrill's book, anyway), but there is one in (I think) the London Gazette which corresponds more-or-less to it. |
| 30th March 2005 | John Young
Sheldon,
There isn't one in the 'Illustrated London News'. The Defence of Rorke's Drift was very poorly served in that paper.
'The London Gazette' certainly would not have any illustrations in it.
The closest I've seen to it was a near contemporary (1890's) miller's advertisement, with the company legend on the mealie sacks. Best I can come up with.
John Y. |
| 30th March 2005 | Sheldon Hall
Thanks John. The image I have in mind isn't likely to have been an advertisement, though. It's a drawing showing a group of soldiers standing atop a pile of mealie bags. One officer (Chard?) has his arm outstetched, pointing off right at something (the relief column?), and there's a pile of Zulu corpses lying in various positions in the foreground. One soldier at the far left bears a striking resemblance to Michael Caine!
I can't swear that it's the right picture, as it isn't an exact match for the scene in the film, but it's the closest I've been able to find. If anyone recognises it from the description, please let me know its source!
Sheldon |
| 30th March 2005 | Coll
Sheldon
The picture I think you are describing seems to be the one from the London Graphic, I'm looking at it right now in the book Rorke's Drift by Adrian Greaves.
Coll |
| 31st March 2005 | Sheldon Hall
Thanks, Coll! I have the book at home so will check it tonight.
Sheldon |
| 1st April 2005 | Michael Boyle
Sheldon,
Not sure if this is the one you're talking about but you can check (I hope the long URL doesn't muck up the page) :
http://www.ilnpictures.co.uk/ProductDetails.asp?ProductDetailID=72826&Subcatid=&keywords=zulu+'war'
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| 1st April 2005 | Michael Boyle
John,
Although it's an ILN page they credit The Graphic with the illustration, and here I thought outsourcing was a modern invention! (Perhaps they're just now trying to make up for their paucity of coverage as the only other illustration of the defence of the Drift is also attributed to The Graphic.) |
| 1st April 2005 | Sheldon Hall
Michael,
Yup, that's the one!
Sheldon |
