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31st October 2003Duminy & Ballard - "The AZW; New Perspectives"
By Peter Ewart
I don't yet have a copy of the above but hope to soon. Published PMB 1981, I believe after a number of papers were submitted to a conference at the Univ of Natal that year, among them (I hope) one by Norman Etherington: "Anglo-Zulu Relations, 1856-78."

I'd be very grateful if anyone who possesses a copy would kindly let me know the source quoted for Etherington's remarks on the Rev Robert Robertson, which appear to be relied upon by both Jeff Guy in "The Heretic" (p256) and by Knight & Castle, "Fearful Hard Times" (p47).

Many thanks for this help.

Peter
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1st November 2003John Young
Peter,

You're going to hate this the cross-reference leads you to another work by Etherington entitled 'Preachers, Peasants and Politics' page 45.

Not one I have in the collection!

John Y.
1st November 2003Peter Ewart
That's all right then - I have that one on order too! Thanks for that, John.

Although listing one' s own works in a bibliography is not at all unusual, is it not correct practice to cite the original reference, whether primary or published, for a particular statement?

Por old Robertson always gets a bad press and I can understand this in some ways, but in the 1880s and 90s he'd come a long way from the missionary he was in the 1850s, 60s & 70s. There are several accounts which provide another side to his story, although admittedly not all from an impartial source. What is often overlooked in his case is that - even before 1879 but especially afterwards - he was more concerned with setting up out-stations than personally converting the amaZulu himself. He eventually became the acknowledged "expert" at branching off into the wilds to set up another new mission in pretty rough and isolated circumstances & was highly valued for this attribute and for being able to rough it alone. His last station, Inhlwati (Annesdale) was just such an example.

He is, of course, blamed for the rumours about Cetshwayo's policy c1877 but he probably knew him more intimately than any other white man with the the possible exception of Dunn. Nevertheless, I'm looking forward to seeing Norman Etherington's sources, given his undoubted scholarship.

Peter
2nd November 2003AMB
'Preachers, Peasants and Politics' - easily found on bookfinder.com: $25.
Hope this helps.
AMB
2nd November 2003Julian Whybra
RE: "Although listing one' s own works in a bibliography is not at all unusual, is it not correct practice to cite the original reference, whether primary or published, for a particular statement?"
The answer is no, it is not unusual, provided the author is the one who conducted the original research he is citing.
2nd November 2003Peter Ewart
AMB

Thanks. Fortunately, I had it on order already via a dealer on abebooks.

Julian

Thanks for that; I had overlooked the possibility that it may have been him who'd conducted the original research in the first place. Presumably, in "P.P & P" I'll find his original source!

Peter