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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:09 pm

Hi all,
Forestier-walker
Coghill
????
Hallam-Parr
??????
All on Frere's Staff 1878

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:13 pm

Hi again,
Old Central figure, might be Sir Arthur Cunynghame CiC military forces South Africa, before Chelmsford.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:52 pm

Just to put John Young out of his misery, and with the the unwitting assistance of Martin, the gentlemen in the photograph are, left to right:

Colonel F.W.E.F. Walker, Military Secretary, Lieutenant R. Loring, RN, ADC. Gen. Sir Arthur Augustus Thurlow Cunynghame, Captain F.W. Grenfell, ADC and Lieutenant N.J.A. Coghill ADC.

KIS

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:18 pm

Keith,

No misery here, I'd already made my conclusion. Re-Walker's rank I would say at the time of the photograph it was Captain & Lieutenant-Colonel (a rank peculiar to the Brigade of Guards) he didn't become until Brevet Colonel until 15th October 1878.

Here's Walker @ Hythe in 1865, seated front left, with a well-known, but not A-ZW RN officer standing second from the right.

John Y.

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:34 pm

And this one of Forestier-Walker by a Cape Town photographer. On the reverse in period ink "Colonel Walker."
Ron Sheeley

http://picasaweb.google.com/NappieIII/ColonelForestierWalker#

John, Is the naval officer--Lord Charles Beresford?

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:28 am

Looks to me to be John "Jacky" Fisher then serving as Gunnery Instructor at HMS Excellent later to become Admiral of the Fleet.

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:43 pm

Rusteze,

Well spotted!

RB,

Is that my swop?

Fred & Charlie 'leaving on a jet plane' tomorrow.

JY

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:57 pm

JB, Glad Fred and Charles are finally on their way here, No, the SA F-W is not for you. Now I do have a BW period cabinet of F-W that could be yours.
Sorry I erred on the RN officer and accolades to Rusteze for correctly identifying him.
RB

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:44 pm

Terrific photo, John.

Certainly looks like Fisher (and was my first guess for a naval officer) and I assume you know it was him for certain. But what was a RN gunnery officer doing at Hythe? Was this taken at the School of Musketry or at one of the many local barracks in Hythe? Did the RN send officers to the S of M?

The chap on Fisher's immediate right looks very familiar to me, but I can't place him. Any ideas? Do you know the identity of all the others in the snap? Royal Scots officer, seated left?

Peter

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:51 pm

I don't believe a Royal Scots officer would have dicing on the cap?

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:28 pm

Is not the gentleman sitting second right front row another naval officer?

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:05 pm

Saw

Sorry, should have said Scots Guards. I'm thinking of the cap worn by Methuen in a well known photo of him in his younger Scots Guards days. (Funnily enough, I still thought a similar diced cap was worn by the Royal Scots of the time, but will have to defer to you on that, as I'm very much a novice on uniforms!)

Rusteze

Yes, it does look as if he and Fisher are wearing a similar cap, cap badge, frock coat/tunic, tie etc., doesn't it? I still think I recognise the chap next to Fisher from somewhere. Is that a "90" on his cap? Can't quite make it out with a magnifying glass?

And what is the object on the grass in front of them?

It's a great picture. As one can see, the sun always shines in Kent ...

Peter

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:22 pm

Think object is a pile of books arranged like a house of cards. When blown up the cap number looks more like 50th to me.

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:43 pm

R. Yes, could be a 50. Why books, I wonder? They must signify something in particular, being arranged in the foreground like that. Not happy at all with this - absolutely no way to treat books!

P.