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ralph dyer
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 3:42 am |
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lossie,
indeed i remember the said blank cartridges very well, and i don't know that anyone can prove or disprove that they are the spare set for Michael caine as props. i think we have to rely largely on trust, they were indeed signed by lady ellen Baker and sold to you by mr poyner. lady Baker was also going on the word of john when she signed. i can say that i have visited john at his home and he holds many genuine articles there for sure. and diana and martin were disgusing dress uniforms, well john has 2 at his home and which i believe to be genuine, the wool fabric is somewhat flattened and lifeless also the brading is just about holding on in places, buttons are missing, so i guess in the passage of time they have seen better days but, they are still collectable.
as for your blanks my friend i think they are worth only what a collector will pay for them. i know what you paid and i think, they will be worth about the same kind of money, maybe a bit more.
regards ralph.
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mike snook,
hi, yes I agree that the uniforms in the film zulu dawn are of poor quality. though I believe that when you are outfitting hundreds of extras it is to be expected that the quality will be somewhat lower, depending on the film budget of course, I found the film zulu far better in every way than zulu dawn, but I am pleased that it was produced. In fact I would very much like to see a more full account of the whole campaign, when one looks at the latest so called blockbusters such as... arthur.. alexander.. troy etc, there is such a pattern on heroics and weapons and the over the top acting and film stunts, it makes me shudder, I find picking holes in most films a hobby now.
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Lossie,
No claims to being an expert, but my spin on question of the blanks. The correct pistol for the period would have been a .44 Tranter or an Adams, with a Colt running a way distant third (they weren't popular in that they were "single action"-- that is, they had to be cocked manually with each shot instead of "double actions" which can fire as fast as you can pull the trigger. Think of a cowboy "fanning" his Peacemaker for the former). Any one of these is worth a small fortune and are unlikely to appear in a movie, so the pistols in the film are Webleys and probably either Mark V's or ( more likely) Mark VI's-- both of Great War (WW I) vintage. The Webley was the final result of the concept that a sidearm should have "stopping power" and they achieved this end by throwing a considerable weight of lead at a shockingly low muzzle velocity. A MK 2 Webley bullet weighs 265 grains and initially travels at only 580 feet per second! For perspective, compare to a "modern" .38 Super Auto slug weighing only 130 grains, but moving at 1300 fps. What's all this mean to you? If a Webley could ever fire a .38 caliber anything, it's a rare pistol and it would be a VERY valuable pistol indeed. More typically they would fire a .455 caliber blank (so called for some strange reason, since they're actually .44 calibers). Incidently,there are many older Webleys in the US, but they've almost universally been adapted to accept .45 ACP bullets, which are far more available . Either way, a movie prop wouldn't be likely to fire a .38 round, but you've got some great provenance and I've only enough knowledge to be dangerous. A true expert could answer your question fer shure.
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