PLEASE HELP which type of Martini Henry this is? |
Mikey29211
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Can you post a pic of the receiver with the cocking indicator in the open position (cocked) with the markings showing. It also looks like there is a safety catch next to the trigger.
It's hard to tell but it looks like a military MKI or MKII that has been cut down from the muzzle end. Is there a thumb rest on the receiver? Please post more photos.. |
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chasejmartin
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Thanks for the reply here are some pics; there is no markings near the cocking indicator.
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Mikey29211
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I'm sorry i can't help here, i have never seen a MH without the QVC stamp and date and MK stamp next to the cocking indicaor.
To me anyway it looks like good workmanship so i wouldn't think it is a Khyber Pass knock-off.(I'm no expert) You could try Jason at www.martinihenry.com and send him your photos His site is down at the moment. You can see the QVC cypher, dates and MKI stamps on mine |
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Neil Aspinshaw
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Hmm. This look to have been built out of various parts.
The Proof marks look like Liege. But then agian the barrel is odd anyway. The proof marks are not military. The forend hook and forend wood is military, it is off a cavalry carbine, there looks to be filled holes between the reciver and middle band, (also staining) that is where the screws that held the leather sight protector once where, the sight is part of the barrel and is brazed on on a rifle, whereby the carbine rear sight is dovetailed on and can be removed. The front band fitted is also from a cavalry carbine as there is no bayonet lug, so this whole assembly has been replaced. The cocking indicator is off a Mk1/2 rifle, being a long indicator variety. that is incorrect for the receiver as the Mk3 rifle and Cavalry carbines did not use that size indicator, the lack of a broad arrow point this to be a later addition or, my guess what you have is... A private purchase rifle, either Birmingham or Liege trade pattern. With a M-H cavalry carbine forend fitted. One last thing... is it rifled? or has it been smoothbored. Neil www.martinihenry.co.uk |
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Adrian Whiting
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Hello,
These are indeed Belgian proof marks applied at Liege. The "E" over "LG" over a star is the black powder proof. The mark that looks like a baton on top of a pyramid is the black powder view mark. The others are the viewer's marks. The Belgian trade produced many military pattern Martini Henrys, though for civilian use. These are not, to my recollection, Belgian military proof marks, as the military proof is surmounted by a crown above the "E" etc. Rifles such as these were retailed privately, and in many cases, though not this one, the retailer applied their own details to the knoxform, or flat area just forward of the actiona body. I have seen examples with retailer's details engraved on the side of the action body too. Martini Henrys in British service calibre were popular civilian arms, given the ready availability of the ammunition. They were widely used for target shooting and for shooting game. Neil is absolutely right in that a British service cavalry carbine forend (second pattern as far as I can tell) has been fitted subsequently. The rifle appears to have retained a rifle length cleaning rod. The picture is not absolutely clear but it looks as if the protruding end is threaded? If so the rod is either of a trade pattern too, is inserted the wrong way round (which is usually not possible unless the head has been ground down) or is a carbine length not fully pushed home (although the same would apply as to the rod apparently being the wrong way round). The cocking indicator would not be correct if this were a British Service Martini Henry MkIII, but is correct for the Belgian trade patterns. Essentially I would concur with Neil, and offer that you have a Belgian manufactured rifle, for civilian purchase, subsequently fitted with a British MHCC forend. |
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_________________ Hope this assists, Adrian |
chasejmartin
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Thanks for the replys!! the cost of this rifle was �430 was this good????
Thanks again all |
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Neil Aspinshaw
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Sort of, you would be better trying to obtain a new rifle forend wood for it, to make it more authentic, as at the moment its a BITSA as we call them, a bit of this and a bit of that.
Neil |
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chasejmartin
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OK Thanks where can i get one?? how much are they normaly ??
Thanks All |
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