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johnk


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Hello, can anyone point me in the right direction of the possible locations of any military kraals at the time of azw, or even if they existed
Many thanks for any help
P's I will be staying at RD hotel at the end of Feb, visiting RD for the first time, any advice would be great.
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Alan
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John,
what's your method and route for your trip?

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johnk


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Hi alan, flights to durban, then car hire, once there they are arranging a local guide called, I think , Dalton
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Alan
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John,

I don't know your length of stay but I assume you arrive from J'burg.
Is your guide local to Durban or Rorke's Drift?

If you haven't planned your route, you might consider going up the M3 and visiting Pietermaritzburg
on the way. For the return trip to take the coast road calling at Babanango, Ulundi, Eshowe, Gingindlova
and down to Durban.

There are a few trips from various members in the Trips section which you may want to view.
http://www.rorkesdriftvc.com/stories/index.htm

Others may have a few tips. Enjoy your trip. Take some sweets to give children
who may pester and don't give money. Keep your car doors locked when driving in towns.
Keep an escape distance from the car in front when stationary. Keep possessions tight
to you and don't flash money. Traffic lights are called 'robots' and they drive on the same side as us.
Some junctions don't have 'robots' and first come applies. Some will think I'm being paranoid,
maybe but better safe ....

This relates to Dalton, your guide: http://www.rorkesdriftvc.com/stories/dalton_uk.pdf

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johnk


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thank you Alan, great advice, I fly to Durban and collect the car there for a week, I plan to go to RD first but I will detour on the way back to Durban.
I feel honoured to have such a distinguished guide.
cheers

ref my question, does anyone know if the locations of the old military kraals were recorded or would they all be close to the capitol
thanks
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John Young


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John,

Can I suggest you get hold of a copy of Laband & Thompson's The Illustrated Guide to the Anglo-Zulu War or in its former guise Field Guide to the War in Zululand. The maps indicate some of the amakhanda (singular ikhanda), where they are close to the battlefields of the campaign.

The locations of the sites of the principle amakhanda are shown on a map in Ian Knight's The Anatomy of the Zulu Army from Shaka to Cetshwayo 1818-1879. Which might also assist you.

I hope that helps?

John Y.
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AMB


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John et al,

Am I correct in thinking that the term kraal is non-PC these days? Or is that only for certain parts of the media?

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John Young


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Andrew,

A kraal is an enclosure for livestock, which is why I used the Zulu term ikhanda to describe a military encampment.

John Y.


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John,

Ack your last. The modern shift in titling is noted.

In 1879 the term kraal would have meant as native homestead; as Theal noted in 1894: the word kraal ...is also used to signify a collection of either Hottentot or Bantu Huts.

A cattle-kraal was where the cattle were kept.

It just goes to show that language never stands still!

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Language may never stand still but sometimes PC does all the running.

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johnk


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Many thanks everybody, correct terminology noted
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John,

Your terminology was correct; to some though, it might not be politically correct!

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Ken Gillings


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John, you are welcome to give me a call on your arrival in Durban. New road networks or upgrades have made locating many of the sites of the amakhanda a little challenging, but if I'm at home during your visit I'll try to assist you. My landline number is 031 702 4828 and my mobile 083 654 5880.
My e-mail address is [email protected] .Bear in mind too that very little remains of most of them.
Regards, Ken

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johnk


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Many thanks ken for your kind offer, I will try to get in touch on my arrival at my hotel
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